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Broadcasting Seeds Podcast Notes

Seth Vandebrooke

09 Sep 2025 — 6 min read

What follows are reference notes from a free-flowing conversation on a podcast episode (Broadcasting Seeds Podcast) that explored various topics without prior notes or preparation, so this one will feel a little all over the place. The discussion touched on ancient texts, cryptid creatures, and interpretations of Biblical passages.

In the episode, I was asked for explanations and exposition on a few different articles of mine, all of which will be linked to from here. The episode also examines the concept of hybrid creatures, including the Elioud/Eljo, and discusses various definitions and interpretations of terms like "Watcher" and "Elohim." The conversation includes references to monstrous births in literature and oral traditions, such as the Hawaiian myth of dog-headed beings and the Lion Men of Moab.

The Nights Watch podcast episode article link:

3 Races article link:

Genesis 6:1-4 ESV
When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus, Book V Chapter 2
There were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing.

1 Enoch 7:1-2
These and all the others with them took for themselves wives from among them such as they chose.c And they began to go in to them, and to defile themselves through them, and to teach them sorcery and charms, and to reveal to them the cutting of roots and plants.
And they conceived from them and bore to them great giants. And the giants begot Nephilim, and to the Nephilim were born †Elioud†. And they were growing in accordance with their greatness.

Nickelsburg, George W. E., and James C. VanderKam. 2012. 1 Enoch: The Hermeneia Translation. Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press.

Jubilees 7:21-22
For it was on account of these three things that the flood was on the earth, since (it was) due to fornication that the Watchers had illicit intercourse—apart from the mandate of their authority—with women. When they married of them whomever they chose they committed the first (acts) of impurity. They fathered (as their) sons the Nephilim. All of them were dissimilar (from one another) and would devour one another: the giant killed the Naphil; the Naphil killed the Elyo; the Elyo humanity; and people their fellows.

VanderKam, James C. 2020. Jubilees: The Hermeneia Translation. Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press.

The word Nephilim is used in verse 22 as a catch all term to refer to all 3 races. This is similar to how Rephaim is used in the Old Testament (list of verses).

Many hybrid cryptid creatures can, at least conceptually, fit in the category of Elioud/Eljo.

Watcher definition
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h5894/kjv/wlc/0-1/

Veresilimitude definition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verisimilar

The making Nuremberg Chronicle:
https://archive.org/details/makingofnurember0000wils

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Zoocephalic: Animal headed

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Anthropocephalic: human headed

Dogman with strange feet: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6572456q/f287.item.r=chienne

Cherubim with strange feet and heads: Ezekiel 1:5-14

For medical conditions that match monstrous races:

Augustine City of God 16.8
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf102.iv.XVI.8.html

Books with monstrous births:

Hawaii Oral Tradition

“mystery of spirit life born into the body of a dog belongs to the breed described in this chant as dark red ('i'i), brindled ('a'a), and hairless ('olohe). The hairless 'Olohe people with whom the brindled dog is associated are believed to be dog men with the mystical shape-shifting powers of the demigods.[1] They lived in caves dug into the sandhills, where they are said to have been first discovered and used by Kahekili in the eighteenth century as a division of his army. Living witnesses today report men with dogs' heads marching in the ghostly processions of dead warriors returned to revisit their old haunts on earth, whose apparition is not uncommon among Hawaiians or is even reported by foreign-born mystics. Their relation is not clear with a class of powerful wrestlers, also called 'Olohe, who, contrary to the custom of the long-haired native warrior, cropped their hair and oiled the body to escape the clutch of an opponent and would lie in wait at strategic points along a trail to attack unwary travelers. The brindled dog associated in the chant with the dog-headed 'Olohe was supposed to have been born into the family of the volcano goddess and to be under her protection. Although ordinary dog meat was a favorite dish among Hawaiians and allowed also to women, one would hesitate to cook such a dog for fear of divine vengeance.[2]

In this seventh chant the half-jesting, even sneering, mood of the sixth gives way to a sense of awe and mystery.”Beckwith, Hawaiian Mythology, pp. 343-51.Green, Folk-Tales, p. 48; Green and Pukui, Legend of Kawelo, p. 178.]

Lion men of Moab

2 Samuel 23:20

Regarding its etymology, several propositions have been made (cf. HALAT 84–85; Ges.18 98–99; NBL 167; ABD I 377–378 & lit), but only two of the suggested derivations seem to be applicable: 1. < ʾryh ‘lion’ with the theophoric element ʾl ‘God’. 2. < Ar ʾiryat with afformative lamed ‘fire-pit’ or more freely ‘altar-hearth’ (for the Moabite occurrence see J. Hoftijzer & K. Jongeling, Dictionary of the North-West Semitic Inscriptions, I [Leiden 1995] 100–101 & lit; K. P. Jackson 1989:112–113)."

Münger, S. 1999. “Ariel.” In Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, edited by Karel van der Toorn, Bob Becking, and Pieter W. van der Horst, 2nd extensively rev. ed., 88. Leiden; Boston; Köln; Grand Rapids, MI; Cambridge: Brill; Eerdmans.

Note: I accidentally said there were bear headed Cherubim. That's not true.

Early church fathers calling certain gods Nephilim/Rephaim departed spirits.

Connection to Greek and Roman pantheons

Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, 1.3.1
Philo of Alexandria, on the giants
Jude 6-7
2 Peter 2:4-6

The dragon of Yahweh article:

Genesis 1:21
So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Correction. I said Job 39-40 are behemoth and Leviathan. It's 40-41.